Rear Brakes
The Jeep has developed a slow, pulsating noise on brake pedal application that only can be heard when it is almost stopped. Having cheerfully ignored the rear brakes during last winter’s quickie $20 brake job, I decided it was time to pull the rear wheels off last (Thanksgiving) weekend to see what I had.
After disassembling everything I found a rear brake system that was in basically good repair, but with about 20% of life remaining on the pads. Having gone this far, I decided to pull the rotors as well, have them turned, and put on a set of fresh pads.
The rotors weren’t any fun to remove. After I backed the adjusters for the in-hub emergency brake all the way off, they were still pretty stuck to the hub. It took some pretty serious whacks on the corner of the hub to break them loose. I thought I might have cooked the rotors for sure.
Well, I took them up to the 18 Mile/Ryan O’Reilly’s (formerly Murrays) for turning. After $30 of machine work, the rotors cleaned up with approximately .020″ left before the discard-at spec. I had a difficult time getting a straight answer as to how much they took off at first, but when I started raising hell about it, they handed me the micrometer and it looks like they only took about .010″ off. Not too bad — they couldn’t have been warped – much. (They seem to have gotten rid of the staff that I remember being there previously in favor of a bunch of geezers with bad attitudes. I don’t think I’ll be going back.) $20 worth of new brake pads, and I was out of there.
The brakes went back on with little drama. I adjusted the emergency brake the best I could under the circumstances — which were cold and very, very dark. It seems to work a little better than I remember, but I think there is some room for improvement. It *will* hold the Jeep against a pretty heavy application of the accelerator pedal in gear, so maybe it’s good enough.
Anyway, the braking noise is still with me. After having my father-in-law drive the car around me in the parking lot over at the kids’ elementary school, and then around with me in the back seat, I’m pretty sure the rear brakes are NOT the source of the issue. There is some creaking and groaning in the brake pedal which helps to, but does not entirely, explain what I’m hearing. I’m beginning to suspect that perhaps the front rotors are ever-so-slightly warped, or there is a suspension component which has gotten noisy. I need to dig up my dial micrometer and check the run-out on the front brakes. Hopefully I’ll have some space in the garage cleared out before long, it’s getting cold outside, and there have been flurries in the air…
Tires
…which leads me to the thing that was done today. The tires on the Jeep were questionable last winter. I had to rotate them to get decent performance out of them in the snow (for some odd reason, there was more wear on the driver’s side, and the vehicle would skew oddly to the left on throttle application in snow). This summer, the few times I pulled the boat out of the water with it there was some wheelspin on the ramp, which was not encouraging. Finally, it started to slip and slide a bit on wet asphalt. The original Goodyear Wrangler SR-As were done. Truth be told, I was never too impressed with them. With the snow about to fly, I wasn’t eager to try going another winter on these tires; they were showing signs of dry rot, the tread wear bars were nearly to the top of the tread, and, well, they looked like crap. Being that OE Goodyear tires have never been anything but a disappointment to me, and their premium replacement line is so overpriced, I decided to look to other manufacturers.
Can I mention here that finding decent tires for a common-as-dirt Jeep SUV should be easier than it is? Finding decent tires that don’t cost $200 apiece is really difficult. I shopped on and off for these for a couple of months, but today I had to use a day of use-it-or-lose-it vacation time, so I figured today was the day. Thought I’d be done by lunchtime. I wasn’t done until after 6PM.
The replacement tire industry is full of bait and switch tactics, products of questionable quality, devious practices designed to make it difficult to comparison shop, and only the subjective experiences of website users to go on in making a quality determination. It sucks.
Originally, I was considering three tire brands: the Firestone Destination A/T (well reviewed, a little pricey, and, ultimately, unobtainable due to a national back-order), the Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10 (well reviewed, a little less pricey, and equally difficult to obtain, unless you’re willing to pay $200 more a set than the going rate at Sears), and the Fuzion XTi (also well reviewed, also of limited availability.) Having struck out in my efforts to find a set of four, well-reviewed tires in the 7th largest metropolitan area in the United States without going into a week-long (or more) wait while they were ordered, I began considering alternatives.
I wasn’t about to overpay for Michelin, or the so-so quality of OE Goodyear. I considered the GT Radial’s Savero H/T Plus, which were priced right, but their manufacture in Shanghai left me cold. I was almost talked into a set of BF Goodrich Long Trail TA Tourings by a salesman at Belle Tire, but fortunately I stuck to my guns about not buying something I hadn’t researched. (They’ve got very poor reviews despite all the BS about how great their siping is, and the price was nothing special.) I briefly considered a set of Pep Boys house brand Definity Dakota HTs, said to be made in Ohio by Cooper Tire. All the comments I read about the tires themselves were positive, all the comments I read about the quality of the installation by Pep Boys were negative. Finally, I gave John R Spring and Tire in Troy a call, and was quoted a price on Cooper Discoverer ATMs of $624 out the door. Six hundred bucks is a lot of money to spend on tires, but I couldn’t find anything reputable for less, and Cooper seems to have a very well regarded design. The tread pattern looks at least as aggressive as the first choice Firestone Destination A/Ts, so I decided to give them a try. Time will tell….
